Rescue plan for Ramsgate Maritime Museum steams ahead

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Two weeks ago the Isle of Thanet Gazette launched a campaign to save Margate and Ramsgate museums from closure. Since then support has come flooding in from across the isle - and beyond.

THE man locked in talks with Thanet council over the opening of Ramsgate Maritime Museum has welcomed the overwhelming support gathered by the Isle of Thanet Gazette’s Save the Past for the Future campaign.

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Michael List-Brain, who already runs the Preston steam museum, said he would gladly work with those who have offered their backing to get the museum reopened as soon as possible.

He has been in talks with Thanet council bosses since January and had hoped to open the museum at Easter.

Thanet council has refused to reopen the museums saying it needs a watertight business plan covering all legal eventualities. Council leader Sandy Ezekiel told the Isle of Thanet Gazette he doubted that they would reopen for another 18 months.

Cllr Ezekiel said: “We are not looking for a short-term fix to the Ramsgate museum situation. We want something for the long term to ensure it’s sustainable. There has been nothing wrong with the business plans submitted. They just need to show the museum is sustainable without core funding from Thanet council.”

The future of Margate museum seems even more in doubt as Mr List-Brain said that was not part of the current deal he was negotiating but it could be in the future. Cllr Ezekiel would only say the council was in talks with “partners” over Margate’s museum.

He said money would be needed to cover insurance, legal costs, Criminal Records Bureau checks and possibly staffing before the council would consider reopening it.

Mr List-Brain is already responsible for the entire Ramsgate Maritime Museum collection after coming to a deal with the former owner, the East Kent Maritime Trust (EKMT).

He had been about to take legal action against the EKMT which had failed to maintain an exhibit he had donated, the steam tug Cervia.

At the 11th hour the EKMT agreed to transfer the museum’s artefacts to Mr List-Brain.

The EKMT had previously received £100,000 a year from the district council to fund the museums in Ramsgate and Margate but funding was dropped after it was decided the museums were not good value for money.

While the museums were mothballed in October, the council still continues to pay for electricity and heating to ensure the artefacts in both museums do not deteriorate.

The Steam Museum Trust hopes to pursue alternative methods of funding for the Ramsgate museum. This includes events that would run throughout the year as well as improving the dry dock to house the museum’s historical vessels such as the Sundowner and the Cervia.

SUPPORT continues to flood in for our museum campaign. Readers have offered to give up a few hours a week to help run the museums or have lent their support to keep the isle’s historical attractions open.

Northdown House campaigner William Friend has pledged to donate money to the fund.

There is a three-course fundraising dinner being held at Kingsgate’s Fayreness Hotel on May 22 from 7.30pm. Places cost £15. Raffle prizes are welcome. For more information call Stephen on 07814 306 664. To book a table call 01843 868641.

Thanet Archaeological Society chairman Gordon Taylor said: “We are currently investigating the location of a Roman building first excavated in the 1920s by Arthur Rowe in Tivoli Park Avenue, Margate, and in Hartsdown Park. The finds and records were dispersed over the decades mainly because there is no central location for storing and displaying them.

“When heritage is of such ever growing interest, it is vital for the area to have a modern museum. The success of the Hadrian exhibition at the British Museum is an example of how popular history is if properly done.

“When I first moved into the area in the early 1970s I became interested in local heritage and history because of the excavations at Lord of the Manor, with a subsequent display in the Tudor House.

“Kent County Council should be involved with this, it's that important.”

Margate Civic Society member Colin Bridge, from Birchington, pledged his support and used to give historical walks around Margate Old Town.

He said: “I have visited many times and provided music there on special occasions. I am willing to help in any way.

“Also I organise the Thanet Clarinet Quartet which can provide music from easy listening to concerts. We would be happy to help with fundraising or other events.” THDS270608colin-5

The Isle of Thanet Gazette says:

OF COURSE Thanet council needs to be sure that a long-term deal over Ramsgate and Margate museums is both legally watertight and the best for the towns but what good aredoes having two closed tourist attractions which are closed over the summer do anyone?

Thanet council should allow Mr List-Brain to reopen Ramsgate museum immediately, even if it is on a short-term agreement, while talks continue.

Leaders should enter in urgent discussions with other interested partners over the Margate museum, to secure its reopening at once and continue talks for the future.

Without this kind of commitment from Thanet council, Margate and Ramsgate have lost vital attractions for a summer when, because of the credit crunch, many people are planning holidays in the UK.

If tourists come and find nothing to do will they return next year when the museums might be open? Probably not.

Local authorities and swift action seldom go together but in this case time is of the essence or a vital opportunity to promote our district will have been lost.

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    by Tony Ovenden, Ramsgate

    Sunday, April 19 2009, 2:42PM

    “On a more political point the closure of the Margate Museum is more about a Conservative Council not wanting to fund a public service which judging by the strength of the Isleof Thanet Gazette campaign is something the public want. Just imagine if KCC decided that they no longer wished to fund libraries and wanted them to run as a business. Of course KCC wouldn't do such a thing so why have TDC taken such a entrenched appraoch to our heritage.
    In a way there is a touch of hypocrosy from TDC because from whatever view you take of the TDC collection it will always costs them money. As the closed Museum stands the insurance is £8,000 for the collection and this figure came from EKMT accounts. Then there is the cost of keeping items in controlled conditions plus the security costs. Bearing in mind that some items are that valuable they need to be stored in another secure location. I suspect that TDC must pencil in a budget of £20,000 to keep the Museum closed which makes no sense what so ever.
    Since the announcements that the grants were going to axed and the Museums were closing the policy direction of TDC Museum policy at Margate is all over the place. Now that the leader of TDC has stated he reckons it will be 18 months before the Museum reopens, I just have this feeling that TDC is buying time and the talks with "partners" are just a load of conkers. Considering that TDC wholely owns the collection at Margate and regards it as a "assett" could it be possible that somewhere along the line we will be told tols "sorry folks we have tried every avenue, something will have to be sold off",
    A denial would be reassuring”

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    by Mrs M Harvey, Cliftonville

    Sunday, April 19 2009, 10:41AM

    “Both my husband and I teach locally. My personal contact has been with the Margate museum, where the staff have done inspirational work with our pupils.
    It would be so wrong to close the museums at a time when interest in local history is growing.
    I am sure that volunteers with excellent local knowledge could be found to staff them. The RAF Manston museum opens 7 days a week in the summer with volunteer staff.”

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    by John Handley, DEAL but works in Thanet

    Sunday, April 19 2009, 7:27AM

    “I would like to support the need to continue out local museums. This is our heritage, and it it easy to see how these essential "touch stones". Personally I feel we need to involve local enthusiasts more. For example I met a gentleman recently with a huge collection of WW2 aeronautical artifacts who would love the opportunity to show them to the public, Despite asking,I understand he has had no consessions from the local authority to make this possible. My personal interest in "early man" and this corner of the country has artifacts of international inerest yet it is hard to find a place where any are displayed save a very few in Margate. This is "Education, Education, Education"! My interest was kinded by my local museum in Orpington which housed some of the Lubbuck collection. These artifacts had a great effect on me from a very early age. Seriously we need to be thinking of displaying what we have. We need more museums, not less and new ieas of places whre we can display items. For example our wonderful new library.”

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